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Transcript: Former Defense Secretary Robert Gates on "Face the Nation with Margaret Brennan," May 17, 2026

The following is the transcript of the interview with former Defense Secretary Robert Gates that aired on "Face the Nation with Margaret Brennan" on May 17, 2026.

MARGARET BRENNAN:  Mr. Secretary, if you're ready, we'll dive right in.

MARGARET BRENNAN:  So it's great to be back here with you, but there's a lot going on in the world. You said in December we're living in perhaps one of the most, if not the most, dangerous periods in our modern American history. Why do you feel that way?

SECRETARY GATES:  For the first time in our history, we face nuclear-armed adversaries in both Europe and Asia. When China finishes their strategic nuclear modernization, China and Russia together will have nearly twice as many strategic nuclear warheads deployed as we do. We have never faced a country, at least- at least since the British Empire, that had greater manufacturing and industrial capacity than the United States. We have not faced a country that was as technologically advanced as we are, ahead of us in a few areas, behind us in a few areas, pretty much even with us in a few others. So we face an adversary that is more powerful and- and has more non-military instruments of power than- than any adversary we've faced, certainly than the Soviet Union. So whether it's strategic communications or development assistance or trade or whatever, the Chinese are all over the world dealing with these things, so I think if you take all those things together and- and- and the nature of the two regimes, this is a very, very perilous time.

"Face the Nation with Margaret Brennan" guests for May 17, 2026

Here are the guests for Sunday, May 17, on CBS News' "Face the Nation with Margaret Brennan":

U.S. Trade Representative Jamieson GreerAmb. Alexander Yui, Taiwan's representative to the United StatesFormer Defense Secretary Robert GatesA panel with the co-chairs of the Problem Solvers Caucus: Republican Rep. Brian Fitzpatrick of Pennsylvania and Democratic Rep. Tom Suozzi of New York

Plus, a look at new CBS News polling with Anthony Salvanto, CBS News' executive director of elections and surveys.

"Face the Nation with Margaret Brennan" airs on CBS News at 10:30 a.m. ET and streams on Paramount+ and CBSNews.com at 12:30 p.m. ET on Sundays.

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Transcript: U.S. Trade Representative Jamieson Greer on "Face the Nation with Margaret Brennan," May 17, 2026

The following is the transcript of the interview with U.S. Trade Representative Jamieson Greer that aired on "Face the Nation with Margaret Brennan" on May 17, 2026.

MARGARET BRENNAN: We begin this morning with a top member of the president's economic team, United States Trade Representative Jamieson Greer. Good morning to you, Ambassador.

MARGARET BRENNAN: It isn't just a matter of sentiment. Gas is at an average of $4.51 a gallon. Americans have spent $45 billion more on fuel since the war began versus a year ago. The stock market is up, but lower-income Americans are pulling back on their spending. The New York Fed reports households earning less than $125,000 a year are fueling up their cars less often. How do you provide relief to the average American?

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